Are all INTJs antisocial or awkward?

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The topic came up a lot in the comments now, so I decided to write a post on it.

Online tests on the MBTI were usually our first points of contact with the topic, at least that's how it was for me. You read something about these 16 types, but are usually too comfortable at first to really read them seriously - understandable, since you don't yet know what to think of this whole concept.

Most of the time, the tests are not completely wrong, at least not when you say in retrospect: “Well, only one letter did not fit”. I once did it when I was 17, when INFP came out, forgotten and did it again a good three years later and received INTJ as the result. At least that with the introverted and intuitive seemed to have been right. But that's the problem too - it's about letters, not really about functions.

To explain my problem with my example: My test result as an INTJ was pretty sure that I was "I", "N" and "T", the "J" was a bit more difficult: because I have a tendency towards disorder , but always tackling these and sometimes "overcoming" them, I was able - at least at this point in time - to give a "Y" answer to many questions that were about order - I was then about "53% judging" according to the test .

And this is where the nonsense starts in my opinion. The questions only go in two directions and in the wrong direction. Let's take an example from the relatively well-known page "16personalities": "Being organized is more important to you than being adaptable."

You can now state how true the answer is, even in seven grades. But in the end they just give you a different number of points on your "J" or your "P" account. For example, if you state "Yes +3", there are simply 3 points on your "Y", if you state "No -1", there is 1 point on your "P".

The first difficulty the ones I see here already start there so that the question can be misinterpreted. What exactly is understood here as adaptable and in which context? I would have said “yes” because I would have put “adaptable” based on my gut feeling in a social context, which is definitely not the case with me. I have never attached great importance to it and I am not very good at it. On the other hand, being organizedwantme, even if I have problems with it every now and then. Interpreted in this way, one could say that this question would give "T" or "F" points. Someone else could interpret the question as it is (probably) meant: do you prefer to stick to strict processes and routine or are you more flexible and make spontaneous decisions?

Let's assume this is the interpretation the author had in mind, let's come to the next problem: especially when it comes to judging and perceiving, we are often one thing, but strive for the other. J-people are often organized, but long to be a little more relaxed sometimes. “P” -persons mostly live into the day, but many of their conflicts also arise from their laissez-faire attitude and if they are a little reflected they try to work against them. In addition, “J and P” basically not only determine a function, but equally over all, because it ultimately determines whether the functions are introverted or extroverted.

I am an INTP (a good question here would be: “Why are you so sure about that?”, But more on that later) and therefore have the functions of “introverted thinking”, “extroverted intuition”, “introverted feeling” and “extroverted feeling”. ". As mentioned, however, my result was “INTJ”, which means that my thinking was extroverted, my introverting was introverted, my feeling was extroverted and my feeling was introverted. So not a single function was right. So that little letter “J” basically got everything wrong.

The third problem is the thing with honesty. In the end, all guys are worth the same and no one is better than the other (only subjective, isn't it, Marcel?), But many people are very much influenced by their environment and their history when it comes to virtues. If you grow up in a family of humanities scholars, it is very possible that above all intuitive functions were valued and promoted, if you have mainly athletes as friends (for whatever reason, maybe there just happened to be no others), you can again get the impression that an extroverted feeling is “the most important function”. Other examples could be given, but I think the core of the problem is clear: when we answer the questions, we may tend to answer in certain directions because we (possibly subconsciously) have the feeling that our society wants it that we behave according to a certain pattern and we bow to it - or not and that's why we click on the other result, even if it is actually wrong.

Now the question is probably burning:how should it go then?By understanding the eight functions. This basically avoids the three problems. You actually have no way of seeing the functions in the wrong context because they are general concepts. Sure, if you are an ENFP, for example, and find out about the thinking functions, then it could be that you find both strange, find yourself equally with both or not at all, but at the latest when you read your first function about extroverted intuition , the big: “Wait a minute, that's me!” effect should come. I'm just so arrogant now and claim that if you have read every one of my articles about the individual functions and have not found yourself in any of them, then you have not yet really understood the whole thing about the functions.

This is what happened to me when I kept getting “INTJ” and “INTP” results, depending on the form of the day, and then just read Jung's “Typology”: I noticed that I was when I was describing introverted thinking had to giggle all the time because it was so true and had to turn up my nose more often when describing extroverted thinking because I didn't like the way of judging that at all. Mind you, at the time I didn't know exactly which function was linked to which type, so I rated, but only the function itself, not in any biased context.

When you have discovered a functionthat fits like a fist on the eye, the way to a full analysis is not far - was it an introverted function, is the second extroverted and vice versa, the same applies to judging and perceiving. In my case there were only two options for my second function that were there: extroverted intuition and extroverted feeling, which is very easy for me to say, which was more applicable to me. A former bandmate (ESTP) often dropped the remark and allusion to Obelix, who fell into the magic potion as a child, that I fell into an LSD pot as a child because I kept having "strange ideas" - at I also want to mention the anecdote that external perceptions do not always have to be accurate, but in many cases they can complement self-perception well. As a child, I have always enjoyed developing my own (card) games, writing novels and composing pieces of music, which is less of an extroverted feeling - if I had, I would have been outside a lot more, doing sports and maybe not necessarily Composed pieces of music, but probably played a lot more because of my passion for music.

When the two functions and their order have been clarified, the type is also automatically clarified. The method is of course also not perfect and you can still be quite wrong (experience has shown that TI / FI and TE / FE are often still sources of uncertainty in self-analysis, since these functions are more similar than one would assume), but one drives safer than in ominous online tests that can be interpreted in many different ways and have actually not explained anything afterwards.

I'm afraid I haven't covered everything yet, but that's what the comment function is for. As always, I am happy to be involved in discussions with you on this topic 😉

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